Paweł Moskała talks about the changing role of Poland on the New Silk Road

Interview with CEO of Real Logistics for New Silk Road Discovery.com

As a country, we have carried out many shipments of cargo that were not intended for Poland but through Poland reached Germany, the Netherlands, or other European countries. If we redirect loads to the sea, they will bypass Poland – points out Paweł Moskała, President of the Management Board of Real Logistics.

You have been engaging in rail transport along the New Silk Road since 2013. Could you please share something about this beginning story?

Real Logistics has been on the market since 2006. In 2010, Real logistics made its first trip to China. Inspired by the infrastructure, scale & pace of operation, culture, and, above all, a civilization leap, Paweł Moskała, CEO, decided to start operating in the Chinese market. Joining the JC Trans freight forwarding network in 2012 allowed us to flourish. Since then, we have started developing business relations with companies in China dynamically. The One Belt One Road Initiative has opened up new transport opportunities between China and Europe. Since President Xi Jinping visited Poland in 2016, there has been a real breakthrough in the development of rail transport on the China Railway Express route. Małaszewicze in Poland is the gateway on the New Silk Road to Europe. Rail transport from China to Małaszewicze takes about 18 days. On the 10th anniversary of our cooperation with partners from China, we opened a branch in Chengdu (in the New Century Global Center).

What makes you confident in the logistics sector these years and keeps you investing in this business?

This year, we must be flexible above all else. We have been operating on the market for 16 years. Now Real Logistics employs over 100 employees in many branches all over Poland and China. Vast experience gives us confidence. Over the years, we have developed many logistics services: organization of sea, air, road, and rail transport, customs services (we are just after a successful AEO audit), warehousing, trading, and other services related to containers, cargo projects. In these changeable and demanding times, we offer our clients comprehensive solutions. We focus on multimodality between road, rail and sea transport, but especially this year we want to implement even more rail transportations. Intermodal transport services are significant to us, but we also think about the transport of conventional cargo. This year we will strengthen this area.

Could you please analyze the impact of the war on the Eurasian rail transport?

The war contributed to the search for transport alternatives. One of them is the implementation of transport bypassing Russia via Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Georgia to the port of Poti and from Poti further to Turkey or Constanta in Romania, and from there to Hungary. In my opinion, this trail will be challenging to implement. Transit time may be an issue. As of today, the average is around 40 days. We were declared a 20-day transit time, but I find it hard to believe. I can already see potential difficulties, for example, in the case of freight between Aktau and Atyrau -between the ports on the Caspian Sea to Baku and then with another transshipment in Poti. In the eyes of my imagination, I can see the congestion in Poti, which is a local port. It is a place where usually less cargo is reloaded than the plan assumes, Poti will become the main transshipment port for loads on the New Silk Road. I believe this could be a potential problem.

Many service providers indicate volume reduction. Customers are worried about cargo transportation via Russia and Belarus. How do you convince your customers?

Already after the first days of the war in Ukraine, our partners from China asked how they could react to the situation. We are aware that many large global shippers have backtracked from rail transport on the New Silk Road (NSR), which runs through Russia and Belarus. The volume has dropped sharply, but this does not mean that rail transport from China has stopped running. For now, there is no embargo, and we haven’t noticed transport difficulties related to the transportation from China through Russia and Belarus to Poland. Europe hasn’t ended or blocked cooperation on the New Silk Road by the above-mentioned countries. Both imported and exported goods are continuously transported.

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